Случувања во Сирија

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gocka_990 wrote: 08 Dec 2024, 10:43 Ништо ќе се стави под конец тоа одма… не мислам дека Русите ја пуштија Сирија туку така…. мислам дека убаво се имаат договорено сите страни таму…
Ovaa teorija na navodni dogovori nudi povekje neodgovoreni prasanja otkolku odgovori, zasto se razmatra tolku iskreno ne mi e jasno.

Zosto se ignorira faktickata situacija, Rusija e zaglavena vo teska situacija vo koja sekoja normalna drzava kje prioretizira. Iran isto taka, vo vojna e so izuzetno mokjna masinerija ko Izrael poddrzana od SAD, i so godini isitite im ja napagjaa ovaa infrastruktura do Izrael. Izrael im tepase bitni lugje i im go osakati najsilniot adut na zemja, Hezbolah.

Sosema vojnicki e koga kje procenis deka si izel kjotek da se povleces.

Ednostavno odlicno e odbran momentot i Iran i Rusija ja izgubija bitkata, toa e toa. Istoto se desi i u Avganistan, bukvalno ovaka usetaa u Kabul, Amerikancite smugnaa, jbg shit happens.

Realno samite ovie so gi poddrzuvaat raznoraznive frakcii se fatija nespremni od so ne ocekuvaa bas ovakov kolaps.

Ostana da vidime kaj smugnal Asad, i so kje bide so sirotiov narod. Iskreno jeza me fakja od naplivot na snimki so kje pocnat da izleguvaat denovive.
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https://x.com/clashreport/status/1865712277569024151

Otide i bregot. Uf ova kje bide zeznato...
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Asad iskoci mnogu golem sutrak nesposoben.Imase sansa i vreme da se spremi i da dovede red ali ne misli iran i rusija ke go branat.Narodov sirijski isto taka teski supaci sea koa ke se rasturi sve od unutra koa ke bide beter od libija i irak ke placat na cel glas ama posle ke bide trt milojko.
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Mnogu jasno treba li da se krade tugja nafta
🇺🇸🇸🇾 The Pentagon stated that the US will maintain its military presence in Syria.

A Pentagon spokesman said the United States would maintain its military presence in eastern Syria and called on all parties to the conflict in Syria to protect civilians and abide by international norms.

This is not surprising, the resources will not take care of themselves.
🇮🇱🇸🇾The Israel Defense Forces has issued a warning to militants not to approach the buffer zone in the Golan Heights , where the IDF is conducting a ground operation to strengthen the border.
🇸🇾In Syria's Latakia, where the Russian naval base is located, looting has begun; a police station near the port, where looters are robbing warehouses, is on fire.
🇸🇾Militants (or partners?) near the Russian-Iranian post of the Operational Group of the Tactical Command Manbij in Al-Arim, not far from Manbij itself.

Currently, pro-Turkish militants from the SNA are conducting an offensive on Kurdish-controlled Manbij with the aim of taking control of as much territory as possible in the north of the country.

Russian troops were deployed to Manbij in 2019 to maintain the status quo and ensure the Kurds are protected from Turkish-backed attacks, but with the Syrian government collapsing, Erdogan is no longer constrained.
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🇸🇾Some of the security forces who served Assad have already effectively gone over to the side of the militants who seized power and expressed their readiness to serve the new regime. Which is actually no longer surprising, given the lack of resistance to the militants' offensive that has begun. I would assume that there could have been agreements to surrender with some of the security forces from the start.

Regarding the rumors about Assad's death. There is no confirmation of this at the moment. Just as there is no reliable confirmation of where Bashar Assad and his family may be at the moment (in Syria or abroad).
🇸🇾The Syrian Foreign Ministry stated that all of the country's diplomatic missions abroad will continue their work.

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🇹🇷💬🇸🇾 Assad may be outside Syria - Turkish Foreign Minister

Türkiye has not maintained contacts with Assad despite Erdogan's offer of normalization, Fidan said.

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🇷🇺🇸🇾 Russia will continue to support the Syrian people if necessary, but the Syrians will have to deal with the full-scale civil war on their own, stated Deputy Speaker of the Federation Council Konstantin Kosachev.

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🇺🇳🇸🇾 UN Special Envoy for Syria Geir Pedersen admitted that leaders of the armed opposition in Syria could be removed from the list of terrorists.

"To achieve their removal from these lists, they must take actions on the ground to prove the validity of this step. There is a specific procedure for delisting, which they must go through," he stated.

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🇷🇺 Russian military personnel at bases in Syria are on high alert, but there are currently no threats to their safety, the Russian Foreign Ministry stated.

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🇷🇺🇸🇾 Assad has decided to step down as president and leave the country, instructing a peaceful transfer of power, the Russian Foreign Ministry stated.

Russia did not participate in Assad's negotiations with various parties involved in the armed conflict regarding the transfer of power, the Ministry added.

The Russian diplomatic service also noted that all necessary measures are being taken to ensure the safety of Russian citizens in Syria.

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BREAKING — Turkish security sources says 80 percent of Manbij is under the control of Syrian National Army
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🇷🇺🇸🇾 Russia is in contact with all factions of the Syrian opposition, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated.

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🇮🇱💥🇸🇾 The Israeli Air Force attacked weapon depots in southern Syria and Damascus over concerns that the weapons would fall into the hands of militants, according to Israeli state broadcaster Kan, citing a source.

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☄️ I’m currently at the Russian Khmeimim airbase, where I was able to talk to Russian servicemen about their attitude to what is happening in Syria.
Initially, the militants didn’t know what they could achieve.
The attack began early in the morning of November 27. Its goal was to regain control over sections of the M5 highway in the provinces of Aleppo, Idlib and Hama, lost during the government offensive in 2018.
The HTS mercenaries were in the lead. Those we call the opposition, or SNA, were in no hurry to join the battle.
When it became clear that the defense of the SAA was unstable, the militants continued the offensive to encircle Aleppo from the south- and north-west, trying to capture the crossroads. And then it turned out that government troops simply fled from Aleppo. And the militants went further.

I would like to emphasize that from the very beginning of the militants' offensive, entire brigades of the SAA abandoned their positions and fled without a fight.
Individual units, such as the Tigers Forces, resisted. But combat-ready units were distributed along the front line mixed with less combat-ready units, primarily those morally less combat-ready. Accordingly, the resistance was focal and some were forced to retreat due to the withdrawal of their neighbors, while the militants concentrated attack drones (including ukrainian-made ones) and artillery on others.

The problem of the government army was a very serious shortage of rocket artillery, assault army aviation, as well as self-propelled artillery units and electronic warfare equipment. The advancing militants are equipped with armored vehicles, including tanks, they are supported by howitzers, grenade launchers, mobile mortar batteries and self-propelled guns supplied to the HTS through the SNA by the Turkish side.

The RuAF and the SAF could thin out the advancing lines of the militants, but without the proper level of artillery support, this could not turn the tide of the offensive. Or they needed many more aircraft.
For me, it was more interesting to know what preceded the collapse of the defense:

In 2018, Russia proposed to the Syrian government to reform the armed forces. We offered to supply new equipment on credit. It could be repaid at the expense of our companies if they were given preferential terms in Syria.

Now we are conducting a Special Military Operation. But if Syria had taken our weapons and equipment back then, they would have stayed with their army and helped repel the militants. Provided that we taught them how to use it.

But then the Syrian leadership refused. Maybe they considered it unprofitable, I don’t know.
Our advisers could only train Syrian soldiers to shoot and operate drones. But you can’t change such an army.

Meanwhile, the Turks and other NATO members were turning the militants into something resembling a real army.

At the same time, all the combat commanders who fought with us were removed from their command posts in the Syrian army. The well-known units that we helped were disbanded. Over the past year, new commanders were appointed in all divisions and brigades near Aleppo, Idlib and Hama. They eventually fled along with their soldiers.

As for Iran, the US and israel didn’t allow them to transfer troops and equipment. The same can be said about Hezbollah.

My comrades and I don’t know what the politicians will decide. I think it would be right to come to an agreement with the new government and leave our bases. After all, we signed the Astana agreements with the opposition. This means that we can negotiate. It’s unlikely that our leadership will want to be just occupiers, like the Americans. Assad signed an agreement with us on bases.

Whether they will leave him now - we will see. As for our friends, some of them, as far as I know, are already in Russia. The thing is that many of those who worked with us won’t come to us.

But people who don’t want to live in Syria now - many of them are thinking of leaving for Russia.

I hope our government will help them.

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kako se menjaat stvari u rok od nekolku godini

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Ajde zurka pocinje.Kurdi glupi strateskiot partner kaj im e sea da gi brani.Istiot streteski partner go iame i nie :D

🇹🇷🇸🇾 The Turkish Armed Forces, alongside the Syrian National Army, are reportedly preparing to launch a major offensive against the Syrian Democratic Forces.

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Rusive i Irancive go pustija asad i narodot niz voda
Iranian official media have issued clarifications on why Iran has not gone all-out in support of Assad.

🇮🇷📰🇸🇾 Iran's Fars news agency has published an article (https://farsnews.ir/hamed/1733649989178 ... 8%AF%D8%9F) which explains why Iran did not send troops to Syria.

🟡 With the emergence of ISIS in Syria and the deteriorating security situation, the government of this country officially turned to Iran for help.

🟡 Over time, the terrorists underwent a “genetic mutation”, stopped committing violence and took a diplomatic stance. The Syrian people no longer support the Syrian army in the fight against terrorists as before.

🟡 The Syrian army also had no motivation to fight terrorists for various reasons, including religious and economic weakness.

🟡 But the main change occurred in Bashar al-Assad himself. During the last meeting with him on June 10, 2024, Rahbar Ali Khamenei gave the Syrian president an important and well-founded warning.

🟡 In addition, before the start of the war in Lebanon, Iran repeatedly warned Assad about the strengthening of terrorists and even made him the necessary proposals, but they were not heard.

🟡 This process continued until the last hours of Assad's fall. The presence of Iranian officials at the highest level to negotiate with him showed Iran's serious determination to strengthen Damascus. But Assad made a strategic — and fatal — mistake by relying on promises from other Arab countries and the West.

🟡 Upon learning of this, Iran decided not to intervene, but tried to convince Assad to the last. However, he realized too late the emptiness of his enemies' promises.

🚫 ISIS is a terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation.

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James wrote: 08 Dec 2024, 12:22
Realno samite ovie so gi poddrzuvaat raznoraznive frakcii se fatija nespremni od so ne ocekuvaa bas ovakov kolaps.
Skakljivo ali posto nema drugo, potvrda nekakva na ova od drugive forumi:
I’m currently at the Russian Khmeimim airbase, where I was able to talk to Russian servicemen about their attitude to what is happening in Syria.
Initially, the militants didn’t know what they could achieve.
The attack began early in the morning of November 27. Its goal was to regain control over sections of the M5 highway in the provinces of Aleppo, Idlib and Hama, lost during the government offensive in 2018.
The HTS mercenaries were in the lead. Those we call the opposition, or SNA, were in no hurry to join the battle.
When it became clear that the defense of the SAA was unstable, the militants continued the offensive to encircle Aleppo from the south- and north-west, trying to capture the crossroads. And then it turned out that government troops simply fled from Aleppo. And the militants went further.
Gore dole so ova mislam deka nema so da se praj muabet vekje za dogovori ili nesto, ednostavno puknal Asad skroz naskroz.
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Glupi kurdi sedea na strana i ne mrdaa so prst da i pomognat na sirija sea trt milojko i oni ke go ispijat podednakvo
‼️🇸🇾🏴‍☠️ Turkish jihadists have driven pro-American SDF forces out of the city of Manbij in Aleppo and continue their offensive

▪️Photos of the presence of Jaysh al-Watani (Syrian National Army - SNA) gangs in the city of Manbij in Aleppo province.
▪️Sources close to the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) also confirmed the withdrawal of SDF forces from the city of Manbij.
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Toa se tie demokratski sili so evropsko americki vrednosti
🇸🇾 The presidential palace in Damascus is on fire, the reception hall has been set on fire, reports AFP.

Before this, Assad's residence was looted.

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🇹🇷🇸🇾 A Turkish drone has reportedly been striking SDF positions in the town of Tell Tamer in Northwestern Syria.

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Edvaj cekam bagrava da se svrti protiv izrael.
🇮🇱🇸🇾 Netanyahu arrived at the border with Syria and stated that the change of power in Damascus was the result of Israel's strikes on Iran and "Hezbollah."


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Pohoo koja pljacka kje padne sea po rezidenciive, onie najsnaodlivite kje picat 80 inchni samsunzi po doma. Ajajaj..

Glaata ja daam, CIA, MOSAD denes frcat na telefoni so Rusive, Ukrainskive sluzbi isto, sea e lov na magacini so kujznae so po niv. Izraelskoto i Americkoto vazduhoplovstvo kje se skapaat od letanje, treba da se bombardue na mrtvo da ne padne u ruki na bradonjive. Turcive i Ukraincive isto sigurni vekje se na teren se brka sve i svasta. Gasi godisni, vikendi....

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https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international ... 617_4.html#

Тибам бабојебацот дебилен, паднала варварската држава, дојдоа демокративе на пикапи :roll:
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🇸🇾⚡️The Syrian armed opposition has entered Tartus, located on the Mediterranean coast, Al-Jazeera TV channel reports
🇸🇾⚡️Pro-Turkish fighters enter Kurdish-held city of Manbij in northern Syria
🇮🇱🇸🇾⚡️The Israeli army has taken control of the Syrian post of Hermon (Jebel el-Sheikh), Al-Hadas and Al-Arabiya TV channels report, citing sources.

Hermon is a mountain range on the border of Syria and Lebanon, formerly under Syrian control. The southern slopes of Hermon descend, partly passing into the Golan Heights. Most of the Golan Heights are occupied by Israel, the eastern part is controlled by Syria.
🏁⚔️🏁 And now for some NATO vs. NATO

Large-scale battles are unfolding in northern Syria between U.S.-backed Kurdish forces and pro-Turkish formations.

The video (18+) allegedly shows a column of the Syrian National Army, controlled by Turkey, being destroyed by Kurdish fighters.

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🇮🇱💥🇸🇾 Israeli airstrikes target the Scientific Research Center near Damascus.

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Ali zatoa denes iranska ambasada ja ispljackaa
🇷🇺🇸🇾 The "armed opposition" in Syria aims to form a government that includes all segments of the population, a source close to the opposition leadership told RIA Novosti.

The source also stated that the armed opposition has pledged not to attack embassies and diplomatic missions in Damascus.

Additionally, according to the source, the armed opposition has established communication channels with the Russian side.

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🇷🇺🇸🇾 Employees of the Russian Embassy remain in Damascus, the diplomatic mission reports.

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🇸🇾🇷🇺 Situation in the city of Jableh, near the Russian Khmeimim airbase

The situation in the city is calm, with supporters of the Syrian "armed opposition" celebrating the change of power in the streets.

The situation at the Russian Aerospace Forces base is also calm, with reinforced patrols and duty shifts on standby.

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Izraelsko vvipvo scurue aerodrom na sirisko vvipvo kaj damask.izglea otidoa 29kite u vecna lovista

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alvarhanso wrote: 08 Dec 2024, 15:36 https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international ... 617_4.html#

Тибам бабојебацот дебилен, паднала варварската држава, дојдоа демокративе на пикапи :roll:
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Sto ti se zapadni vrednosti i demokratija.Da pozavidi coek
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Еве и Шолц го гледам во живо на DW го поздравува падот на Асад. Живи радости.
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Падна Сирија што ја знаевме, доаѓа друга некоја Сирија или можеби повеќе исламистички држави.
Него која е наредна автократија сеа да се преобраќа во демократија, Алжир?
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Makedon wrote: 08 Dec 2024, 19:00 Падна Сирија што ја знаевме, доаѓа друга некоја Сирија или можеби повеќе исламистички држави.
Него која е наредна автократија сеа да се преобраќа во демократија, Алжир?

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🇷🇺🇸🇾⚡️ Assad and his family members arrived in Moscow, Russia granted them asylum — TASS, citing a source in the Kremlin
sto ti e demokratija coece
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🇺🇳🇸🇾 The UN Secretary-General has called for the prevention of violence in Syria amid the change of power in the country. He emphasized that the inviolability of diplomatic missions and their personnel must be upheld in all circumstances.

According to him, the organization will work with the Syrian people to build the country's future.

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🇷🇺🇺🇳🇸🇾 Russia has requested urgent UN Security Council consultations on the situation in Syria.

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🇷🇺🇺🇳🇸🇾 Russia expects the requested UN Security Council consultations on the situation in Syria to take place on Monday, the Russian mission reported.

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🇷🇺🇸🇾 Leaders of the Syrian armed opposition have guaranteed the safety of Russian military bases and diplomatic facilities on Syrian territory, a source in the Kremlin told TASS.

ℹ️Just FYI - "armed Syrian opposition" is the wording of Russian media, not ours.

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🇹🇷🇸🇾Crowds of Syrian refugees (https://t.me/warhistoryalconafter/171988) (often political) have returned to their homeland. Among them are both ordinary people, and pan-Turkists, and jihadists loyal to the Turks. Now this crowd is literally "getting off the cart" of Turkey.

These comrades will populate the north of Syria, obviously as a counterweight to the Kurds, who are the ones that most displease (https://t.me/warhistoryalconafter/191024) Ankara (some of the Kurdish militants are considered a branch of the "Kurdistan Workers' Party").

However, there is also a minus for Erdogan - in this way, he is deprived of a serious lever of influence of the Turks on Europe in the form of a potential flow of refugees to the EU.

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