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Wikileaks Iraq War Diaries
Wikileaks.org wrote:At 5pm EST Friday 22nd October 2010 WikiLeaks released the largest classified military leak in history. The 391,832 reports ('The Iraq War Logs'), document the war and occupation in Iraq, from 1st January 2004 to 31st December 2009 (except for the months of May 2004 and March 2009) as told by soldiers in the United States Army. Each is a 'SIGACT' or Significant Action in the war. They detail events as seen and heard by the US military troops on the ground in Iraq and are the first real glimpse into the secret history of the war that the United States government has been privy to throughout.

The reports detail 109,032 deaths in Iraq, comprised of 66,081 'civilians'; 23,984 'enemy' (those labeled as insurgents); 15,196 'host nation' (Iraqi government forces) and 3,771 'friendly' (coalition forces). The majority of the deaths (66,000, over 60%) of these are civilian deaths.That is 31 civilians dying every day during the six year period. For comparison, the 'Afghan War Diaries', previously released by WikiLeaks, covering the same period, detail the deaths of some 20,000 people. Iraq during the same period, was five times as lethal with equivallent population size.
ВИКИЛИКС ГИ ПРЕБРОИ ЖРТВИТЕ
On.net.mk wrote:... Околу 285.000 лица биле убиени за време на американската инвазија врз Ирак, од кои што 63% биле цивили, при што најголем дел од убиствата биле извршени од страна на Ирачани а странските трупи молчеле за случаите, откриваат воените документи за војната во Ирак, објавени од Викиликс.

И покрај тоа што САД и Британија постојано негирале дека имаат официјални податоци за бројот на загинати, 400-те илјади тајни извештаи откриваат дека постоеле информации за жртвите, некои поткрепени со медицински документи...
Wikileaks and the Culture of Classification
Stratfor.com wrote:The documents released in this WikiLeaks cache were taken from the U.S. government’s Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet), a network used to distribute classified but not particularly sensitive information. SIPRNet is authorized only for the transmission of information classified at the secret level and below. It cannot be used for information classified top secret or more closely guarded intelligence that is classified at the secret level. The regulations by which information is classified by the U.S. government are outlined in Executive Order 13526. Under this order, secret is the second-highest level of classification and applies to information that, if released, would be reasonably expected to cause serious damage to U.S. national security.

The documents released in this WikiLeaks cache were taken from the U.S. government’s Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet), a network used to distribute classified but not particularly sensitive information. SIPRNet is authorized only for the transmission of information classified at the secret level and below. It cannot be used for information classified top secret or more closely guarded intelligence that is classified at the secret level. The regulations by which information is classified by the U.S. government are outlined in Executive Order 13526. Under this order, secret is the second-highest level of classification and applies to information that, if released, would be reasonably expected to cause serious damage to U.S. national security.
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Ова ми мириса чудно..т.е. базди ништо не е случајно.
За разлика од кој нас, кај нив има држава а обвинението за велепрдавство може да ве квалификува за смртна казна па ај сега објави. :nenene:
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И ние имаме свој Викиликс....шета по дворови и оџаци и остава папки врзани со фортомче полни со сојузни документи.
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Scylla wrote:И ние имаме свој Викиликс....шета по дворови и оџаци и остава папки врзани со фортомче полни со сојузни документи.
Ама имаме ние по фенси име ... Се вика кај нас ЛУСТРАЦИЈА! :)
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Остај ти лустрација...може некој од нив чита на форумов
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Bobo wrote:Остај ти лустрација...може некој од нив чита на форумов

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да бе така случајно ке објават нешто тајно...да бе да :wink:
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Зоран wrote:Ова ми мириса чудно..т.е. базди ништо не е случајно.
За разлика од кој нас, кај нив има држава а обвинението за велепрдавство може да ве квалификува за смртна казна па ај сега објави. :nenene:
Хммм... А како тоа не го бркаат (бар јавно) „кртот“ што ги извлекол извештаите, туку оној кој ги објавил?
On.net.mk wrote:... Откако прво издадоа налог за апсење на основачот на Викиликс, па го повлекоа, па потоа пак го отворија случајот за силување, сега шведските власти одбија да му издадат дозвола за работа и престој во земјата. Голем дел од серверите на Викиликс се сместени во Шведска и добивањето дозвола за престој, ќе значеше многу поголема заштита за изворите на неговиот интернет сајт, кој објавува тајни податоци. Во обид да добие статус на објавувач за кого ќе важат шведските закони за слобода на медиуми, австралискиот државјанин Џулијан Асанж аплицирал во август годинава. Освен тоа дека го известиле преку е-мејл, одборот одбил да открие повеќе детали за одлуката...
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zatoa shto e igranka i zanimacija za naivni.
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Јас би доал и опиум за народ.
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Canemakedonski wrote:Јас би доал и опиум за народ.

Во свет без религија треба некаква алтернатива :lol: :lol: :lol:
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NationalReview.com wrote:I’d like to ask a simple question: Why isn’t Julian Assange dead?

It’s a serious question.

In almost every corner of the popular culture, there are people who assume incredible competence on the part of our intelligence agencies. We take it as a given that spooks can, in the immortal words of Elvis, take care of business in a flash. In the Jason Bourne movies, say the wrong word into your cell phone, and assassins will find you at the train station in minutes. In AMC’s Rubicon, if you pay too close attention to crossword puzzles, your train will be “accidentally” derailed. In Three Days of the Condor, if you ask your bosses the wrong question, a postman with an ice-bullet-shooting machine gun will pay you a visit...
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Има и уште... Дипломатска пошта од американски амбасади од повеќе земји. Сега сите чекаат да видат дали нивната земја е спомната, па да завикат УААА:
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Мислам дека заслужува да се пренесе во целост... Има многууу интересни детаљи...


US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

• More than 250,000 dispatches reveal US foreign strategies
• Diplomats ordered to spy on allies as well as enemies
• Hillary Clinton leads frantic 'damage limitation'


David Leigh guardian.co.uk, Sunday 28 November 2010 17.50 GMT Article history

The release of more than 250,000 US embassy cables reveals previously secret information on American intelligence gathering, and political and military strategy. Photograph: Rex Features

The United States was catapulted into a worldwide diplomatic crisis today, with the leaking to the Guardian and other international media of more than 250,000 classified cables from its embassies, many sent as recently as February this year.

At the start of a series of daily extracts from the US embassy cables - many of which are designated "secret" – the Guardian can disclose that Arab leaders are privately urging an air strike on Iran and that US officials have been instructed to spy on the UN's leadership.

These two revelations alone would be likely to reverberate around the world. But the secret dispatches which were obtained by WikiLeaks, the whistlebowers' website, also reveal Washington's evaluation of many other highly sensitive international issues.

These include a major shift in relations between China and North Korea, Pakistan's growing instability and details of clandestine US efforts to combat al-Qaida in Yemen.

Among scores of other disclosures that are likely to cause uproar, the cables detail:

• Grave fears in Washington and London over the security of Pakistan's nuclear weapons programme

• Alleged links between the Russian government and organised crime.

• Devastating criticism of the UK's military operations in Afghanistan.

• Claims of inappropriate behaviour by a member of the British royal family.

The US has particularly intimate dealings with Britain, and some of the dispatches from the London embassy in Grosvenor Square will make uncomfortable reading in Whitehall and Westminster. They range from serious political criticisms of David Cameron to requests for specific intelligence about individual MPs.

The cache of cables contains specific allegations of corruption and against foreign leaders, as well as harsh criticism by US embassy staff of their host governments, from tiny islands in the Caribbean to China and Russia.

The material includes a reference to Vladimir Putin as an "alpha-dog", Hamid Karzai as being "driven by paranoia" and Angela Merkel allegedly "avoids risk and is rarely creative". There is also a comparison between Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Adolf Hitler.

The cables name countries involved in financing terror groups, and describe a near "environmental disaster" last year over a rogue shipment of enriched uranium. They disclose technical details of secret US-Russian nuclear missile negotiations in Geneva, and include a profile of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, who they say is accompanied everywhere by a "voluptuous blonde" Ukrainian nurse.

The cables cover secretary of state Hillary Clinton's activities under the Obama administration, as well as thousands of files from the George Bush presidency. Clinton personally led frantic damage limitation this weekend as Washington prepared foreign governments for the revelations. She contacted leaders in Germany, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf, France and Afghanistan.

US ambassadors in other capitals were instructed to brief their hosts in advance of the release of unflattering pen-portraits or nakedly frank accounts of transactions with the US which they had thought would be kept quiet. Washington now faces a difficult task in convincing contacts around the world that any future conversations will remain confidential.

"We are all bracing for what may be coming and condemn WikiLeaks for the release of classified material," state department spokesman PJ Crowley said. "It will place lives and interests at risk. It is irresponsible."

The state department's legal adviser has written to Wikileaks founder Julian Assange and his London lawyer, warning that the cables were obtained illegally and that publication would place at risk "the lives of countless innocent individuals … ongoing military operations … and cooperation between countries".

The electronic archive of embassy dispatches from around the world was allegedly downloaded by a US soldier earlier this year and passed to WikiLeaks. Assange made them available to the Guardian and four other newspapers: the New York Times, Der Spiegel in Germany, Le Monde in France and El País in Spain. All five plan to publish extracts from the most significant cables, but have decided neither to "dump" the entire dataset into the public domain, nor to publish names that would endanger innocent individuals. WikiLeaks says that, contrary to the state department's fears, it also initially intends to post only limited cable extracts, and to redact identities.

The cables published today reveal how the US uses its embassies as part of a global espionage network, with diplomats tasked to obtain not just information from the people they meet, but personal details, such as frequent flyer numbers, credit card details and even DNA material.

Classified "human intelligence directives" issued in the name of Hillary Clinton or her predecessor, Condoleeza Rice, instruct officials to gather information on military installations, weapons markings, vehicle details of political leaders as well as iris scans, fingerprints and DNA.

The most controversial target was the leadership of the United Nations. That directive requested the specification of telecoms and IT systems used by top UN officials and their staff and details of "private VIP networks used for official communication, to include upgrades, security measures, passwords, personal encryption keys".

When the Guardian put this allegation to Crowley, the state department spokesman said: "Let me assure you: our diplomats are just that, diplomats. They do not engage in intelligence activities. They represent our country around the world, maintain open and transparent contact with other governments as well as public and private figures, and report home. That's what diplomats have done for hundreds of years."

The dispatches also shed light on older diplomatic issues. One cable, for example, reveals, that Nelson Mandela was "furious" when a top adviser stopped him meeting Margaret Thatcher shortly after his release from prison to explain why the ANC objected to her policy of "constructive engagement" with the apartheid regime. "We understand Mandela was keen for a Thatcher meeting but that [appointments secretary Zwelakhe] Sisulu argued successfully against it," according to the cable. It continues: "Mandela has on several occasions expressed his eagerness for an early meeting with Thatcher to express the ANC's objections to her policy. We were consequently surprised when the meeting didn't materialise on his mid-April visit to London and suspected that ANC hardliners had nixed Mandela's plans."

The US embassy cables are marked "Sipdis" – secret internet protocol distribution. They were compiled as part of a programme under which selected dispatches, considered moderately secret but suitable for sharing with other agencies, would be automatically loaded on to secure embassy websites, and linked with the military's Siprnet internet system.

They are classified at various levels up to "SECRET NOFORN" [no foreigners]. More than 11,000 are marked secret, while around 9,000 of the cables are marked noforn. The embassies which sent most cables were Ankara, Baghdad, Amman, Kuwait and Tokyo.

More than 3 million US government personnel and soldiers, many extremely junior, are cleared to have potential access to this material, even though the cables contain the identities of foreign informants, often sensitive contacts in dictatorial regimes. Some are marked "protect" or "strictly protect".

Last spring, 22-year-old intelligence analyst Bradley Manning was charged with leaking many of these cables, along with a gun-camera video of an Apache helicopter crew mistakenly killing two Reuters news agency employees in Baghdad in 2007, which was subsequently posted by WikiLeaks. Manning is facing a court martial.

In July and October WikiLeaks also published thousands of leaked military reports from Afghanistan and Iraq. These were made available for analysis beforehand to the Guardian, along with Der Spiegel and the New York Times.

A former hacker, Adrian Lamo, who reported Manning to the US authorities, said the soldier had told him in chat messages that the cables revealed "how the first world exploits the third, in detail".

He also said, according to Lamo, that Clinton "and several thousand diplomats around the world are going to have a heart attack when they wake up one morning and find an entire repository of classified foreign policy is available in searchable format to the public … everywhere there's a US post … there's a diplomatic scandal that will be revealed".

Asked why such sensitive material was posted on a network accessible to thousands of government employees, the state department spokesman told the Guardian: "The 9/11 attacks and their aftermath revealed gaps in intra-governmental information sharing. Since the attacks of 9/11, the US government has taken significant steps to facilitate information sharing. These efforts were focused on giving diplomatic, military, law enforcement and intelligence specialists quicker and easier access to more data to more effectively do their jobs."

He added: "We have been taking aggressive action in recent weeks and months to enhance the security of our systems and to prevent the leak of information."
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А во контекст на претходната вест природно се надоврзува следнава локална вест:

Тачи: Викиликс објавува страшни документи за сегашната влада
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Тачи најавува страшни документи за сегашната влада - повикувајќи се на албански извори тврди дека наскоро интернет страницата „Викиликс“ ќе излезе со информации за вмешаност на Грците во конфликтот во Македонија во 2001-та и нивна соработка со албански структури во земјава.

„Господинот Груевски, владата и МВР нека одат да ги апсат „Викиликс“. Вчера американскиот амбасадор во Атина беше кај министерот за надворешни работи на Грција, Друцас.

-Му објасни дека ќе се појават многу точни документи за улогата на грчката влада во врска со конфликтот во 2001. година, за улогата на некои претставници на Албанците, нормално не од ДПА, туку другари на Коле Дијамантот, во врска со спорот со името на Македонија со Грците.

-Нека одат да ги присвојат компјутерите на „Викиликс“ и на ЦИА и тогаш ќе полемизираме“, рече Тачи.

На „Викиликс“ засега ја нема оваа вест. Албанската телевизија „Топ ченал“ повикувајќи се на дипломатски извори јавува дека сајтот ќе објави тајни досиеја од кои ќе бидат засегнати Албанија и неколку други земји - „ќе се извадат на виделина шокантни факти во врска со односите меѓу Атина и Тирана, за улогата на Грција во јужниот дел на Албанија“.

Во овие документи се вклучени тајни досиеја и за односите меѓу Грција и неколку други држави јавува „Топ ченал“.

Телевизијата објавува дека грчкиот министер за надворешни работи Друцас побарал објаснување од американскиот амбасадор во Атина како стигнале во рацете на САД информации наведени како „Топ сикрет“ од грчката влада.

Деновиве најави за објавување на тајни документи на „Викиликс“ загрижија повеќе влади во светот.

Агенциите јавуваат дека американската администрација го предупредила сајтот дека со објавувањето на тајните документи на Стејт департментот ќе ја загрозат антитерористичката операција во светот и односите на САД со сојузниците.

Најавите на Тачи за тајни документи што ќе го засегнат македонскиот врв се нови информации во низата скандалозни објави околу лустрацијата, што се проверуваат, но ја тресат политичката сцена во земјава.

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Денеска речиси цел ден страната на Wikileaks е вон употреба... претпоставувам дека навистина има скокотливи материјали кој би можеле да замрсат пар конци, дури и кај нас.
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моментално е во функција

до сега кај што се споменуваме ние најдов само еден документ
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Кај мене сеуште не го пушта.
Во кој контекст сме споменати?
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Levitte expressed optimism that a new Greek
government would be "more solid" and allow greater
flexibility for progress in the Greek-Macedonian name
dispute. A/S Gordon agreed that either a more solid
Conservative government or a Socialist government would be a
stronger, more flexible partner in the negotiations. He
expressed hope that if the international community could
convince Macedonia to abandon the idea of a referendum and
get Greece to abandon the necessity of changing passports,
then progress could be made.

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